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"I'm a God Warrior!"

Discussion in 'General Discussions About Dreams and Anything Else' started by sweet slumber, Feb 2, 2007.

"I'm a God Warrior!"

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    Benji

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    ah maybe but a christian is still a christian in the end old friend :)
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    Maljonic

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    To be honest I'm not really into Christianity myself but I think your statement is a bit prejudice. For instance some people I've met in this country are total bastards and others are really nice; they're all British, but I wouldn't say 'but an English person is still an English person - or a white person is still a white person - or an Islamic person is still an Islamic person.

    People are people and you always get nut jobs no matter what they decide to label themselves, but it's not fair to blanket label them. You can't compare an 'End of the World, we're all doomed' crackpot who's decided to proclaim our fate in the name of Christianity with the Vicar of Escrick village (just an example) who gives advice to grieving widows, helps out at the local hospital and raises money for Children in Need. Technically they're both Christians but you wouldn't call them the same. Furthermore I notice people always seem to use the lowest common denominator to a benchmark for the rest of a group, I mean why do people often choose the mentalist 'God Warrior' as an example of Christians over the vicar of Escrick-type people? Or why choose the infinitesimal minority of Islam-labelled terrorists as a sweeping example of Islam as so many people do, fuelled by the media no doubt, instead of the countless others living respectable lives?

    It is funny to watch that woman proclaiming others are 'dark-sided' but, even though humans like to create 'them' and 'us' groups, it's not fair to use her as a typical example of a Christian because she is far from it. And it's even more unfair to millions of others to say 'ah maybe but a Christian is still a Christian in the end' like some antiquated Roman imperialist sending people off to be fed to the lions.
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    Benji

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    Haha what Im trying to say even though all christians are different they are still part of christiantity (spelling) I mean you do get differences like catholics and prostents and mormons but they all are still part of the same religion. Im thinking of making a new what is religion and your opnion of religion topic soon...lol
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    Maljonic

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    I usually find when people say they want to talk about religion, or when they say they hate religion etc, they usually mean Christianity.

    As for all the different types being Christian, I think some of them are only Christian via their own declarations (The Jesus Army for instance) and would not be thought of as Christians by say the Smith family who go to church every Sunday.

    P.S. Actually The Jesus Army is probably closer to the Smith Family than the End of the Worlders you see in town, who are the very thinnest end of the wedge.
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    sweet slumber

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    Here in America, Christianity has become politicized. For a politician to say they are secularist, or (god forbid) an atheist, that's pretty much the end of their career in national politics. Only one congressman has admitted to having "no god belief" and he's from a rather liberal county in California.

    It is written in our constitution that congress shall pass no law establishing a religion, yet we have members of congress today passing resolutions for "National Prayer Day" and Recognizing the Importance of Christmas among others. The latter one is in retaliation of the Christian right's assertion that secularists want to destroy the holiday ("the war on Christmas").

    The big news in this country right now is the republican candidate's choice for running mate named Sarah Palin. She grew up in a Pentecostal denomination called The Assemblies of God. For a taste of what she's all about, get a load of this:

    YouTube - Sarah Palin's Alaskan Armageddon (Clips)
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    Maljonic

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    I think it was Thomas Jefferson who decided that religion should be allowed in America no matter what the domination, but it had no place in politics and should not be allowed to influence the government and how the country runs. I think he was sort of into God as a spiritual entity, but didn't hold much truck with the idea of Jesus, walking on water and all that stuff - other than being a nice story and Jesus being a real person but not definitely the son of God. I think he had quite a modern, before his time, way of thinking about God - like many people do today, i.e. they like God, pray to God sometimes and generally believe in a God, but think religion as such is a waste of time at best and down right dangerous at its worst.

    I'm not sure what he'd think of all the "God Bless America" politics of today.

    Still, though he did envision freedom for all Americans, he did have a lot of slaves still as well who were not included/protected by the DoI. Though he did plant the seed of such thoughts in everyone's mind, which meant it was inevitable that the slaves would also want the same freedoms before too long. Incedentally, I think a lot of the slaves in America turned to religion as a way of gaining the freedom originally denied them by the Declaration.

    P.S. I don't like Palin or the other guy who's name no one can remember. If I was American I'd vote Obama, even if it were only because he's not the other lot, because I like the way he comes across.
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    sweet slumber

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    You know Mal, you know more about American's history than a lot of American born citizens do. You're spot on about Jefferson. The Christian right believes this is a Christian nation, "founded on Christian principles," Whatever their definition of "principles" is. The fact is, there is absolutely NO mention of god, Jesus, Christianity, or the bible in the U.S. constitution. The ideas "all men are created equal" and "freedom of religion" and "freedom of speech" and "freedom of assembly" and to air grievances against the powers that be are not Christian principles or based on the bible. The bible is very authoritarian in its world view, particularly the Old Testament.

    I am voting for Obama and a big reason is that I believe he will restore diplomatic relations around the world that we've lost since George W. Bush has been in power.
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    Maljonic

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    Well it's good to know some things about American history, I caused quite a family uproar whilst driving around New York by saying I'd never heard of Alexander Hamilton. :)
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    sweet slumber

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    Don't worry Mal, you'd be amazed at how many Americans don't know who he was.

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